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Aleigh the acrobat said, (37 days ago)
Did you meet a girl? Come back to Philly and let's start a business and you can hear about my boy stuff! It's juicy!
cupcakes, maybe said, (37 days ago)
somebody's been listening to under the bridge on repeat a bit too much.
Jesse said, (37 days ago)
but, the world is crumbling and daddy needs the money...
PS, I wouldn't ever get a car, just watch me, so traffic is a non-issue.
Jesse said, (37 days ago)
@Aleigh, after all the crime I hear about in Philly....
man gossip? wowz already?
message me about this businesssss
soulcamp said, (37 days ago)
Hahahahahahaha. The man thinks he's gonna live in LA without a car. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Jesse said, (37 days ago)
people like Soulcamp (read: everyone) wants to see me fail and get a car. Not gonna happen. Unless I have kids.
soulcamp said, (37 days ago)
Mwah haha haha haha.
Seriously, though - if you don't believe me, ask Summer. There are a *few* places in LA where you can get by without a car, but they are rare, and you'd have to be really lucky to both work and live in one.
Betty said, (37 days ago)
it's possible to live here without a car, but it's really fucking hard. and normally i'd be all kinds of stoked for you to move down here, but i'm leaving in january, so whatevs. fuck la. there are great places here, but they're adrift in a sea of horrible.
fuznotfuz said, (36 days ago)
Jesse: So, you want to move to a city DESIGNED FOR CARS, and not to a city with an very + good public transportation system…and yet you won't get a car.
Curious, your logic.
Jesse said, (36 days ago)
Right. Well one of the things I want to do with my life is get more people out of cars and on a bike or bus or something else. LA, admittedly would seem the most impossibly place for this to happen. But that is exactly why it should happen there.
LA has an underground metro, VERY limited but it's there and it's expanding. The bus system(s) are actually pretty decent. Buses are new and clean and have tvs in them playing news and such. These buses also have bike racks. People, LA people, ride these buses. It's won awards and stuff!
Driving in LA sucks so much. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, so no way in hell I'm gonna do it. Also cars are expensive and smelly.
There are a LOT of bike lanes in LA, and room for more.
I gave up a car seven years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. For those of you that know me well, I'm supremely stubborn and committed. So any bets against me will likely go stale.
Jesse said, (36 days ago)
All that said. LA is not my top choice at all. I'm considering a job there. I considered it for a girl, so I'm already half way to considering it fully...
I'm worried the economy will just get worse and worse and maybe I should take the cash and run while I still can...
Where's Agent? someone give me some LA love.
Agent Lover said, (36 days ago)
HERE I AM. Okay, I do know several people that live in LA and do not drive or have cars and they get around just fine with the subway/bus. Of course it is really hard since shit is so spread out. I guess it just depends on if you have to commute/what part you live in.
LA is fucking FUN though. I am surprised you are considering the move here though. You seem like more of a Portland person but whatever. If you move to LA and don't like it you can move somewhere else. Life is an ADVENTURE.
The Hatshepsut said, (36 days ago)
Jesse, you are like me and can never make up your mind about where you REALLY wanna live. Wherever you go, I wanna be able to visit. S'okay?
LA is good! I was gonna go there cause my brother/Marie/everyone cool lives there. You would fit in the everyone cool category, thus making you fit nicely.
Portland is beautiful tho. I love all the trees and the people are super nice, just not as ethnically concentrated.
pepperoni said, (36 days ago)
i agree with marie. LA is wonderful if you know how to (as ALOV would say) "werk it."
it's totally plausible to live here without a car, you just have to have patience, which most people do not have.
dimpelotomous said, (36 days ago)
People hate on LA all the time, including people from LA. But you gotta realize, that this city has incredible opportunities both for career and your passions. Also, I ride my bike to work every day. And there's a pretty good scene for bike folks like yourself.
Honestly, it's not SF or NYC. But I think LA gets a horrible wrap. You could really enjoy it. And Marie, Pepper and I are all here to show you around if you need it.
pepperoni said, (36 days ago)
oh yes, there are the bike people who go on the midnight rides. there's a lot of them. i am friends with some but seeing as how i only learned to ride my bicycle this year i don't participate.
Jesse said, (36 days ago)
I keep hearing of your kind... the folks who never learned to ride a bike. I hope it wasn't just for burning man!
PS, had interview, job is less than spectacular... but I dunno... the idea is growing on me...
pepperoni said, (36 days ago)
i don't even want to answer that.
do i look like someone who goes to the desert for days on end???
i never learned because i didn't play as a child. i was SERIOUS BUSINESS. all lessons and library time and babysitting.
Oom Mao Mao said, (36 days ago)
Riding a bike is fun, huh, peps?
I've always been baffled by Burning Man. It was really annoying the year I lived in the Bay Area.
"You getting ready for Burning Man?"
Hell no, I like to bathe regularly. I will go to great lengths to do so, even bathing in freezing cold glacier water in the Himalayas.
pepperoni said, (36 days ago)
i think riding my bike is scary still. i'm not confident enough i think.
burning man seems like it would be fun for like 8 hours and then i would call someone to come get me.
Oom Mao Mao said, (36 days ago)
Hmm... well, you're not the only person to learn late. Triangles & Rhombuses did as well.
I think it's a shame b/c some of the happiest moments of my childhood involve riding my bike.
Then again I nearly unmanned myself on my ten-speed as a boy with that stupid bar. That would've been unfortunate.
Jesse said, (35 days ago)
Triangles learned late, really? I've seen her rig, it's swell.
The key is to get on your bike, and then have me push you off of it. You'll fall, it'll hurt... sorta. you'll get back on, you'll be suddenly way more at ease...
Funny, as I typed this I remember the first time Dad let go of me and off I went on two wheels on my own. I made it over the big speed bump. Stopped and pedaled back to Dad... then hit the fence and somehow tumbled down into this depressed carport drain. Smashed up my elbo hardcore. Cried and all that, but was never afraid to fall again.
On burning man: burning man can suck it.
Betty said, (35 days ago)
la does have a subway system, but it only covers a small portion of the city. the bus system is also pretty great, it's just that everything's so very very spread out here that getting anywhere on a bus or train takes FOREVER. and that can really start to cut into a girl's schedule.
Dr. Awkward said, (35 days ago)
LA's pretty alright, all things considered. When it's not on fire, anyway.
And I had a friend who did just fine without a car here.
Jesse said, (35 days ago)
*I* am not worried about not having a car in LA. You all seem to be, tho.
Also, I know it's all spread out and sometimes it's fun to go other bits of it... but I'm an urban dude and like to stay in very few neighborhoods and like learn to talk to the Armenian butcher and shit. I'm folksy like that.
Besides, I haven't had a car in years, and that teaches you patience and gives you time to read. The hour and a half bus ride I took from Culver City to Hollywood everyday earlier this year was fine. I watched the news clips on the teevee and listened to my ipod.
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