Biden/Palin debate open thread.
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she needs to say something about russia soon, otherwise I'm going to be very disappointed
Don't be silly, darling. The entirety of debate camp involved them shocking her with a taser every time she said the word "Russia."
@Sharon: There's a customer at my shop who looks just like him! It kinda weirds me out, most especially because she's a nice lady.
She's dumb and saying NOTHING, but she's not a train-wreck yet.
We are not going to be separating religious marriage and civil marriage for a long time yet. First, we need to remember the separation of church and state that this country is founded on and give the same rights and privileges to all people.
Civil unions are the step that makes people realize "Hey, this isn't so bad" and agree a few years later to let gay marriage happen with minimal social upheaval. If you want to skip that step, the place to do it is California and Massachusetts, not at the national level.
Yes, it's a compromise with ignorance. That's the price of democracy.
This is making me crazy. I'm both sort of embarrassed with her and scared that she's hitting the tried/true GOP high notes too well.
There was no baby step with interracial marriage! It was illegal, and then Loving v. Virginia found that the laws against the races marrying were unconstitutional!
There should be no cumbersome baby steps for homosexual marriage rights, either.
Here's a statement from the conclusion to my favorite Supreme Court case, Brown vs. the Board of Education:
"I conclude from the testimony that in our Delaware society, State-imposed segregation in education itself results in the Negro children, as a class, receiving educational opportunities which are substantially inferior to those available to white children otherwise similarly situated."
Separate and equal cannot coexist.
@Xenu - . . . .wait a minute. . . Palin stole Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's line?? (remember, he said Iran had no gays)
Gay people don't exist! If you excuse me, I'm going to go play "nuclear candyland."
i tried to listen but she makes my soul hurt when she talks. it's like the sound of a thousand idiots screaming.
@Xenu: Interracial marriage has been happening with the support of both church and state for millennia. The laws banning them were seen as being backwards. There was no baby step because there was no question that the resulting union would in fact be a marriage, if allowed.
A majority of people don't really understand how a gay marriage would work. Allowing civil unions will show them.
As for the "separate but equal" argument, I have great difficulty seeing how anyone's civil rights are harmed by their marriage licenses sitting in different filing cabinets.
Biden and Obama are on record favoring rights legally equivalent to marriage, which is much more comprehensive than the civil unions currently in existence in the US.
I feel sorry for this moderator...it has to be like herding cats to keep Palin on topic.
I actually just had to stop watching. Palin's voice not only does me in BUT THE UTTER SHIT SHE SAYS MAKES ME SO FRUSTRATED AND WORRIED THAT YOUR COUNTRY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN. She hasn't answered a question yet! She just talks in circles of nonsense! GAH!
@centropomus: If you marry Strangerbox, is your marriage still legal in... Texas? Yes? Arizona? Yes? Michigan? Maryland? New Mexico? Washington, DC?
There's one difference.
"My kids is public school participants..."
The question remains: Is our children learning?
Oh yeah, we should tap into that vice president's position! bow chicka BOW
@artschooled - isn't it your accent? She's Canadian, right?
@Xenu - HI!!!!
BTW - I'm surprised that Palin didn't say "some of my best friends are the gays". She almost did with that comment about her "diverse" friends.
@Davey: She doesn't have any friends. The only people in Alaska are related to her.
@Zab: She's not retarded. She's a robot that has flawed programming and a facial tic.
Or maybe she's doing this to win a bet.
Is anyone else weirded out how she brought up that Biden's dead wife's reward for being a public school teacher is that she is in heaven?
@Xenu: Yes...maybe she is. I'd totally forgive her if this was a big practical joke.
as I said in another thread, she sounds like she's 15.
i'm really surprised she doesnt' say "like" every other word.

I've already had to drink three times- twice for "maverick" and once for "hockey moms."