Can anyone explain to me why posting hatespeach on the internet is considered funny? I just don't get it.

BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL "SERIOUS BUSINESS" AND YOU'RE ALL "LAAAAWWWWLLLL"

@twigby - Maybe I'm dumb, but I still don't understand.

as do I.

(My guess would be "No.")

Maybe I've lived in California too long, but I still think that the words we use matter. I have a great sense of humor, but it doesn't extend to hurting people knowingly.

@mizsarah- i hear ya.

Maybe some members of the gti community (whether or not you self-idetify as a troll) can explain why they do it?

I mean, if you just want attention, I'll give you attention. I don't have to dislike you to do that.

@mizsarah: please see my post above. i really think that's a big reason as to why many "cut loose" online.

all of it... in its essence, these individuals look at the internet as an arena where they are the boss and their humor is king.

It's their own little way of "being funny." They find it funny, their peers find it funny and strangers who share the same views find it funny - so it continues.

Ever been on line (not online hahaha) for an event and witnessed a group of DOUCHEBAGS being addressed by some alpha-fuck in the group and they're all captive to his stupid fucking story about ESPN Sports Center or The Colbert Report? The lead douche puts his spin on it, makes it no funnier than it already WASN'T and they're laughing like mad.

I get embarrassed by those situations. I get embarrassed by them online, which is why I choose not to partake in conversations where people call each other chinks, honkies, inbred-serial-killer-sister-fucking-rednecked-wet-dog-smelling-snowflakes, coons, micks, spics, hicks, camel jockeys, injuns, dotheads, coons or anything else of that ilk.

I look at the real world as a suitable forum in which to use such colloquialisms.

@KC- you are so money ;)

@oimoi - I'll buy your first round.

thing = think, btw

You are a strange man, aren't you?

I'm always interested in the contrast between people who are offended by this behavior, and people who aren't. It doesn't seem to make sense.

i think often it's tossed about to illustrate it's utter absurdity, but other times it's meant seriously. it's hard to differentiate sometimes, but i find that certain people can be relied upon for hate speech and others just find adding another "offensive" statement to the mix to be an illustrative tool of silliness.

for instance, in the "death to hipsters" thread, hating on any group is just stupid. ginger chose to illustrate that with the jews, which granted, is perhaps a risky choice, but her comment isn't really that different from mine about hating third graders.

it's all unfounded.

"Heifer" just makes me hungry.

Any ladies wearing or driving some WRANGLERS around right now? Please, stick with me here... new FANTASY.

The difference between me and h8rs is that even though I hate everyone, I won't say anything about it until they do something to piss me off. Everytime I go to a club in ftl, some Haitian guy thinks its okay to rub his junk all up on me. That is NOT okay, so I talk shit about hating Haitians.

@pepper - I didn't see your 3rd graders comment until you mentioned it, but it seemed to be doing the same thing that others were doing, i.e., covering up for (ironic?) anti-semitism by treating it as a joke and being and playing along to a lesser extent. I mean, no one actually thinks you hate 8 year olds.

But I was waiting for a non-Jew to stand up for me and say that it isn't funny so I don't have to be the kill-joy. Confidentially to Tanya, I love you, but money-stealing jokes aren't working for me.

@ginger - I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to understand you.

I'm not sure that's what you're trying to do at all. I think you are trying to express that something upset you and you want an apology.

Pepper hit the nail on the head explaining my thought process and the joke. Do I go over the top? Yes. But I think hating and wishing death on any large group of strangers is pretty over the top.

For instance, earlier I pointed out the white stereotype of Orange County would want the latino stereotype of Celisse's people to do their yardwork. I guarantee you she did not shed one tear, nor contemplated whether I really thought so little of those people.

Are you really sure, Tiffany? Are you really?

what's all this then?

@johnny, don't tell her the stuff I've said about you being black. I'm gonna go delete that thread about the r'ing of little girls.

We can talk in notes if you'd prefer I didn't call you out in a public forum. I didn't mention your name at all - I was just trying to understand the racism-is-now-funny mindset everywhere. Call it PC if you want, but it's really the way I think and act. I don't think censorship needs to enter into it.

i wasn't covering up for anti-semitism... if i thought it was serious on any level i would have said something. why would it be different to assume that i hate third-graders than to assume that ginger actually hates jews?

the only difference is that historically people have had hatred for jews, and there's no precedent for people hating school-aged children... but that doesn't make it untrue or impossible.

i find the sterotype that jews are money stealers laughable, just as i find most sterotypes. i actually do a "jewish" burlesque number to the song "money- it's what i want." but that's because i know it's not true.

I like 3rd graders, it's the 4th graders that bother me.

I personally hate judging people by grade level. because everyone knows everyone younger than college level is an idiot.

plus I've always been 10 years more mature than my age. I dare someone to prove me wrong.

I think this topic got way more serious than it should have been. You people are uptight and hostile.

Whatever, Tiff. I know you only tease me cause you love me.

yeah, THAT'S why she teases you, johnny.

well, yeah. how could you not love *obnoxious sweeping hand motion* all this?

*sigh* No one likes gefelte fish. It's just an excuse to eat more horseradish.

p.s. xoxo

So who's the victim here again? 'Cause this sounds like another round of Oppression Olympics.

PS: While it's a stereotype, my basis for it comes from my experience with some Russian-Jewish immigrants, to whom money IS a serious big deal and one of the more important ambitions in life, whether the having of it or the process of attanining it. But that's probably completely separate from their ethnic/religious heritage, and entirely to do with the economic and social hardships that many Russian immigrants experienced in the past.

@ginger - I will bake you the biggest batch of ruggelach and mandelbrot and babka and all other sorts of tasty Jewish cookies with funny names if it will get you to understand even a tiny bit where I'm coming from. I'm not trying to call you a racist, I'm just saying that racist language isn't a funny joke, especially in text, where no one can catch the body language clues that you're joking. 'Sgood?

Sarah, is babka the noodle dish? My mom used to make a babka all the time, with spaghetti noodles and raisins.

Basketball teams have mostly black dudes. Why? I mean, I know there's that stereotype of them being more athletic or whatever. But stereotypes never have any reality to them, right?

I haven't been over to the house yet. The jar is unopened on my nightstand. It won't go bad right?

This is the one i"m talking about: http://www.bigoven.com/102754-Joy-Philbins-Noodle-Pudding-recipe.html
It's called Babka in some Eastern European cultures I guess?

All I know is, I can't control other people's commentary, but I can control how I react to it.

I also think it's good that not everyone laughs at the same jokes, because even though I don't have a big problem with racist, homophobic, sexist jokes... I do think it's good to talk about and understand why some people might be bothered by them.

I also don't mind explaining myself as long as it means not having to censor myself.

I don't understand where you're going with this. Are you just outraged with me that I got upset? Do you want real answers to the basketball question, or are you trying to make some sort of a point?

@bizzy - s'okay darlin, your point is well taken.

@tanya - nope, that's still a kugel in my book.

@sarah: We always called it babka :) I didn't know kugel until I came here.

@Tiff - how come? I

^ please ignore the extraneous letter I

also, babka is a part of mechanism in machine, but its a rare sort of meaning and its hardly used by anyone, except for professionals, I guess.

Probably cuz old ladies or aunts made 'em.

I just think "Tastes like grandma."

Because I prefer other feelings? That's a strange question to ask. I mean, anger is one thing, but even then it is really, really quickly gone and out of my system. I've sort of grown out of letting other people control the way I feel. Also, I feel you regret a lot of the things you say and do when you're angry. You never really convey what you mean and who actually takes into consideration what someone ragin' has to say?

@ginger - you have a point there. I did just make myself go back and read the things I posted when my heartrate was high and my hands were shaky to see if I was out of line.
I'm almost never angry. Really, I have a long fuse.
But outrage isn't the same thing as anger, and I think it can be more useful. Why wouldn't we want to change things for the better if we had the chance?

I don't think outrage or anger ever changes anything for the better. I'm getting a lot more from you as a calm and not-so-angry person than I did before.

I think bizzy summed it up pretty well.

I come from the school where what you say matters, and how you present what you say matters, and if you're an asshole, it comes right on out.

But I also know where I'm unwelcome because of this, so I try to monitor my own, and no more. You can call others out all you want, they will listen only if they want to. There are a million ways to defend your behavior, especially if it's rewarded in any manner.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't speak your heart of course, but as they say, you pick your battles.

I'm out. Bizzy, you're in charge til I get back, since you seem to have the middle ground. And because you're so damn cute.

So do I, dude.

the only gifelte fish i ever had was made by my late grandmother. it had a weird gelatenous tomato sauce and bones in it. it tasted like if canned tuna went on vacation to italy and came back trying to be all fancy, and all the other tunas are like, you're still the same damn tuna, just in tomato sauce. ciao!