I think all men should move away from New Jersey

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-13/12137649544110.xml&coll=1

The NJ Supreme Court just awarded palimony to a woman who was never married, had no kids, and never lived with the poor bastard who's now stuck supporting her.

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Carlo said, (160 days ago)

Oh please. Like I'd be involved in a relationship for that long. I'm safe where I am.

Previous Toast said, (160 days ago)

I really don't get the mindset of "Damnit, I dated someone successful, and I deserve some sort of compensation."

CocktailsMalIntent said, (160 days ago)

When you set up a relationship in which you are the financial support of someone else, ripping that support away from them is impossible to recover from in time to, say, pay your rent. if you don't want it to happen to you, don't agree or act in a way that makes you their financial support.

@PT: in most cases, it's a stay at home parent who gets divorced. she hasn't held a job in, let's say, a decade, and has no savings that are purely their own. is it fair to make them immediately responsible for any bills that they, until the divorce, could rely on the working partner to pay for in exchange for their work in the home? sorry, you've been divorced, pay that mortgage now or lose you house. we don't care that you haven't worked since the reagan administration and are, thusly, not really hirable. get on it.

Salomea said, (160 days ago)

I wouldn't call the guys a POOR bastard. It seems the deciding factor was that over the course of the relationship she became financially dependent on him? But like, unless he made her give up her job... it's weird.

0get2dachoppa0 said, (160 days ago)

the system REALLY FUCKING WORKS

0get2dachoppa0 said, (160 days ago)

@Cocktails - that means every kid who was ever kicked out of thier house at 18 can get palomony too

CocktailsMalIntent said, (160 days ago)

that wouldn't bother me at all actually.

0get2dachoppa0 said, (159 days ago)

even if they were kicked out for being fucking billy bad asses?

Namrok said, (159 days ago)

Sorry Cocktails, I just don't see it that. Just because you've allowed yourself to become helpless and somebody cares about you enough to try to help, does not mean they are then OBLIGATED to help you forever.

And this wasn't a marriage, there were no kids, they didn't cohabitate.

Lets say every day you walked by a bum and gave him some food, you befriended him, and he became dependent on that food. Then one day your way to work changed and you didn't walk by him anymore, would you want him being able to sue you for a few meals a day?

"if you don't want it to happen to you, don't agree or act in a way that makes you their financial support."

Cause no good deed goes unpunished! How fucked up is that!

Deep-Fried Goodness said, (159 days ago)

That's messed up. The courts in your country are messed up. Is NJ part of the United States of Canada or Jesusland?

CocktailsMalIntent said, (159 days ago)

The problem is that since marriage is not longer the be-all end-all of the relationships in this country, the courts have to decide how they want to handle situations where there is no marriage and there are no kids, but one partner was still dependent on the other for their life.

i mean, christ, this dude paid for her apartment for seven years. there are states where that would qualify as common-law marriage.

Namrok said, (159 days ago)

I can see we'll never see things the same way on this. You view her as a helpless victim. I view her as someone who has completely abdicated responsibility for her own life. And now the state supports that sort of bullshit.

StillSleeping said, (159 days ago)

I live in NJ. She was his "mistress" for 20 years. I can understand, perhaps she thinks she gave him the best years of his life...she was a kept woman until he decided not to keep her anymore...seems a bit far-fetched but...the guidelines of marriage are pretty scant, honestly I don't understand marriage for any other reason then financial advantage.

Namrok said, (159 days ago)

But that's the thing. She was a mistress. She knew she was a mistress. People like that are supposed to put things away for a rainy day or work on a backup. Not sue for continued support. He even sent her through college, but she wasted it on something useless.

CocktailsMalIntent said, (159 days ago)

I don't view her as either helpless or a victim. i see her as an employee of this guy who deserves either a severance package or unemployment. if you willingly take on the responsibility for another person's life and situation, you don't just get to stop arbitrarily.

Also, even if she went to college, if she hasn't been working then there's not a chance in hell she'll get employed after 20 years out of the work world. by ending things with her, he's essentially left her without recourse to afford an apartment, let alone the life she was accustomed to.

and still, nam, there are states in which their situation would have qualified her as his common-law wife, which would actually entitle her to half his shit.

Namrok said, (159 days ago)

@C&M: Except he was already married, so no. No common law bullshit either. It's not his fault she let herself become completely dependent on him.

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