My brother's wife wants a divorce. And she doesn't want to give him his car back.

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ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

The car was my mom's, and she put it in my brother's name before he got married. Therefore, it's HIS car right? And she has to give it back?

makelikepaper said, (161 days ago)

don't they have to split their assets?

this sucks :(

douchecanoe! said, (161 days ago)

she's not fucking around, huh?

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

She's a cunt!

everlovingben said, (161 days ago)

tell your brother to take it and sign it back over to your mom now

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@makelikepaper: Well, I thought that they only have to split what they acquired after they were married... not what was his before...

I mean, the title is in his name. She can't just magically switch it...

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@des: Guess not, I just wish it didn't involve my lovely parents.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@Corey: I kind of loved her, but she is starting to act cunt-ish.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@everlovingben: I wonder if he can do that...

everlovingben said, (161 days ago)

@ashleigh i think he can if she hasn't started the divorce proceedings yet...because for all the courts know he didn't know he was getting the divorce and was simply returning the car to your mother

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

@ashleigh: She'll probably get to keep the car too. Divorce courts are VERY friendly to women. The legality is second to how much the judge can protect a poor innocent defenseless woman from a big mean man who's trying to ruin her life.

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

Also, I would suggest not trying to switch ownership of the car over. The courts look very down on men trying to hide assets and anything he thinks he's saving he'll lose twice as much.

ABoyNamedArt said, (161 days ago)

Is she cute?

everlovingben said, (161 days ago)

the other ploy is having your mom talk to her because it is your moms car...you might be more likely to let your mom have the car

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

Anything acquired PRIOR to the marriage is yours. Anything acquired during the marriage is split 50/50.

Been there done that. Also, if anything is given as a gift to one party DURING the marriage, you can argue that it wasn't meant for the other party.. my house was given to me during the marriage, and my ex wasn't allowed to touch it. :P

everlovingben said, (161 days ago)

@beccah that all depends on what state you live in...here in texas it doesn't matter if you owned it prior to the marriage...it all gets split

makelikepaper said, (161 days ago)

the point is she's being a bit materialistic. if you want a divorce, fine...but don't try to take stuff that isn't yours in the process.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@Namrok: Such a shame... and she up and left him... Isn't that some sort of abandonment situation?

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@ABoyNamedArt: If you like that skinny, blonde, fake-boobs type.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@everlovingben: My mom was actually on her way to the in-laws house right now...

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@just beccah & everlovingben: Hmmm... they got married in New Orleans and lived in Virginia...

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

@ashleigh: Depends how much she's willing to lie and how good of a lawyer she can afford.

But I wouldn't expect much. She's already made her character clear by trying to keep a car which obviously isn't hers.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

She can however argue that it's hers because she used it exclusively/almost exclusively.. especially if there is another car in the household. Everything was in my name, cars, house, debt, etc. But I had to give one car to him because I couldn't prove that I used two cars exclusively. :P

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

You can get into situations where one person can argue that a gift wasn't actually a gift, but rather an investment in the partner. Gifts can't be taken back. Investments can.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

It's really just all about how good of a lawyer you get.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@corey: that's completely false. I was my own lawyer. He had a lawyer. I got the debt (all in my name) split 60/40 in my favour, I got my house both sold and that money put back into another house without him touching a dime, I have sole legal custody, joint physical custody, and tie breaking vote should we disagree on a parenting issue.

Lawyers are full of shit and cost entirely too much money.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

I would tend to disagree. Lawyers have something that most people don't have. Experience. Sure, a person may get divorced two or three times in their life, but a divorce lawyer will handle hundreds or thousands of cases. They know what they can get for you.

(if they aren't idiots and don't suck ass)

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

@just beccah: You are also a woman. A lot depends on the judge/state, but by and large, women have an enormous advantage in family/divorce court.

This guy is going to need a lawyer.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

But yes, judges tend to favor women. Especially if there are children involved.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@corey: my personal opinion - if you can't figure out what you can get for yourself, then you should prolly just be put to death.

@namrok: I think the woman is only favoured if there are children involved, or she can prove she was more housewifey than equal partner.

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

And Beccah, I'm not sure how going "I'm a woman, I didn't even have a lawyer and I got everything, and saddled him with a chunk of MY debt" is supposed to be any sort of encouragement for this poor MAN. Just means his soon to be ex wife could do the same to him.

hey jude said, (161 days ago)

that bitch.

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

This actually does highlight an amusing thing though.

Any man who talks to a woman about divorce will get the "Why don't you just take everything and screw them over?" story. Because a lot of women are completely oblivious to how biased the courts are in their favor, and how blatantly impossible that would be for a man to pull off.

Previous Toast said, (161 days ago)

I wonder how many marriages where the dad is a stay-at-home-dad have had divorces, and how those have worked out.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

Uh it wasn't my debt. It was both of ours debt. He was/is a dirty limey and couldn't build his own credit without using me. :P

I've given points for the MAN... if it was acquired prior to marriage, and she doesn't use it exclusively, it should be his. End of story.

and for the record, VA isn't a community property state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_property

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@PT: I actually have neighbours who went through that - he was a STAHD with his first two kids, and got nearly everything in the divorce. She paid him both child support and alimony until he remarried. :P

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

Divorce is so complicated... Sad how it was once love, now it's about cars and dogs and property.

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

Ah, when you said it was all in your name, I assumed it was yours.

ABoyNamedArt said, (161 days ago)

And fake boobs. By the way, who bought *those* for her?

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

She got the fake boobs while they were married. Does he get a boob?

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

(And yes he is still paying on the boobs. And the house. And the dog.)

Previous Toast said, (161 days ago)

@Beccah- That's interesting. :) So it's not really a man/woman thing as it is biased towards the more dependent spouse.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@ashleigh: if there are dogs involved tell the brother to figure out what he wants with them NOW and to work that out. He offered our dog to me, and I declined since it was mostly his dog, and his first pet.. but now I miss her like crazy. Luckily I get to see her periodically when he goes out of town.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

(...the dog that she took. In his car. When she left him. While he was at work.)

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

@beccah: I might have a fairly good idea, but I'm not completely familiar with the semantics of divorce. Maybe if you get divorced more than once you should be put to death for being so undesirable?

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@PT: I think it prolly helped that she was "working late" which actually meant "fucking my boss"..

Whoever "breaks" the marriage, at least in GA, in my experience, is the one who gets screwed.

Yay for the bible belt!

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@just beccah: Yeah I know the dog will have to be discussed. I think he wants to let her have the dog though. Kind of like "You can have the dog, the boobs (obviously), and the diamond. Let's just not make this nasty." (Nasty like by taking the car. Which was a gift to my brother. From our mom.)

Previous Toast said, (161 days ago)

Heh, yeah. That was the case in Missouri too, now that I think of it. We're the buckle of the bible belt.

And Branson is a Rhinestone in the buckle.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@Corey: I'd say for failing to keep a marriage together, YET AGAIN.. not being undesirable.. because who is to say that this person isn't out fucking the local football team?


And in case that was a personal jab - I have no intentions of remarrying.. ever. Marriage is a sham.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

Must be a nice car...

Community Toy said, (161 days ago)

Why do guys want to get married again?

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@PT: Branson is skerry.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

How does fucking the local football team not make someone undesirable?

Prostitutes aren't desirable, but they still get laid.

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

@Community Toy: No clue. Just a good way to get screwed over in the unavoidable divorce. But a lot of women will go "If we don't get married, we're over". And some guys just think "It can never happen to me" with regards to the whole ugly divorce thing.

Previous Toast said, (161 days ago)

@JB: Branson is silly. I played there for a while. It's kind of a weird poor-man's Nashville. But the music gigs aren't terrible.

Provided you don't mind playing at Dixie Stampede.

God I'm glad I'm out of the Midwest.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@ash: Why is there such a hard on for the car ? You mentioned a house - I'd be more inclined to keep my place of residence and not have to pay out for it. I know this one couple who got divorced and he was a straight up abusive alcoholic, and couldn't prove he'd made payments for the house, yet he still went after it and she ended up having to refinance to pay him off (12k from a 140k value).
(fyi - she broke the marriage)

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@corey: You know what hyperbole is right? Surely you do, you're awfully pedantic not to understand literary concepts.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@CT/Namrok: PRENUP! PRENUP! PRENUP! That's assuming you have anything of value. :P

hey jude said, (161 days ago)

oh shit, beccah just called corey a D&D player.

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

I've actually heard a LOT about prenups getting tossed aside or ignored by judges. Apparently the other party can claim they only signed it under duress. Or it can just be thrown out for being "unreasonable", which means whatever the judge might want it to mean. So yeah, a prenup isn't exactly the protection you'd hope.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

@beccah: My point is that a cheater isn't desirable, even to the person they are cheating with. Then again, we might disagree on what is meant by "desirable".

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

Well don't make it unreasonable, and make sure they're not under duress (and video it).

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@corey: I'm thinking you like to argue just to hear yourself, and since I suffer from teh same curse, I'm gonna just let it die here, rather than jack the thread.

Yes, that does indeed make me the better (wo)man.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@just beccah: I think the thing with the car will die down - like he will realize that it isn't a huge deal in comparison to everything else. It's just upsetting him right now because it was his before they were married (not to mention my mom's before that), and she/wife is basically saying "No, I don't want to give it back." Meanwhile he's like "I don't want to be getting a divorce, this sucks, so give me my fucking car."

He's still paying her cell phone bill too. And she cut off the cable when she left b/c it was in her name, didn't even tell him. That's just so shitty, right? "Surprise! I'm gone, the dog's gone, and you can't even flip through the cable channels to entertain yourself."

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

@beccah: "duress" and "unreasonable" don't matter in reality. It's all about how gullible the judge is, how many tears can be squeezed out, and how sleazy the lawyer is.

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

=( I'd certainly tell him to be cutting off anything he's paying for of hers... unless of course he can afford it and thinks there's some possibility for them getting back together.. but if not.. cut the bitch off.. :P

beccah. said, (161 days ago)

@namrok: I disagree.. but c'est la vie. :)

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@just beccah: I originally said that too. I think he was either still hoping it would work out (meaning that she would come back), or that it cost a bit of money to cancel someone's cell phone... Not sure if that's accurate. I mean it's in his name but they are on the same plan/bill...

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

I think with cell phones you have to buy your way out of the contract. My mom is still paying for my dad's cell phone because it's cheaper that way, and he's been dead 6 months.

Corey Hart said, (161 days ago)

@beccah: methinks you're full of hot air.

ashleigh said, (161 days ago)

@Namrok: Now that's some fucked up shit if you can't even get out of a contract if the person dies. Did she call the service provider and talk to them about it???

Namrok said, (161 days ago)

Well the thing is, it's not a matter of "This line is for this person" its a matter of "You are on a plan, the plan has this many lines. How you use them is up to you." Cause you know, some people have a cell phone for work, and a cell phone for personal matters, or however they work it.

Community Toy said, (161 days ago)

Pre-nup is not bulletproof. My mom and stepdad had a prenup and yeah, that was basically tossed out by the courts.

0get2dachoppa0 said, (161 days ago)

well, she's probably gonna get the car no matter what. . .isn't she??

the system really works!

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