How do guys detach their emotions, yet can still look at you like you're the only one in the world, or touch you and make you feel alive?

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Namrok said, (232 days ago)

Generally you learn that particular skill by having it done to you repeatedly.

krissyjo said, (232 days ago)

@Namrok: Then I need it to happen a lot so I can freaking learn to do it before I fall apart completely.

Namrok said, (232 days ago)

Yeah, but then as soon as you pull it off, everyone else will have grown out of it.

CocktailsMalIntent said, (232 days ago)

Grow up being told that emotions are bad for boys and that any display of them are bad and "girly."

I'm pretty happy with the fact that i didn't get that drilled into me as a kid by my dad or anyone else.

Namrok said, (232 days ago)

Well they are.

Osteocephalic said, (232 days ago)

The way you react when he looks at you or touches you isn't some magical skill that he has.

It's all about you, baby. It's how you react to him.

I disagree when women say men detach their emotions. The idea stems from the notion that we're all basically fundamentally female and that some of us are trained to turn off the constant deep well of emotional content that bombards us at every step. But, we're not. We're staggeringly different types of people. It's not that we go through life ignoring all this stuff. We don't even perceive it, for the most part.

In the emotional crayon box, every woman I ever met had at least 128 colors and acts surprised when men don't know what cornflower looks like. We've got eight colors.

CocktailsMalIntent said, (232 days ago)

right nam, having emotions is unacceptably human. being human is all sorts of girly.

Salomea said, (232 days ago)

We ARE all basically fundamentally female. Then some of us happen to grow penises.

Corey Hart said, (232 days ago)

Osteo pretty much said it. Your perceptions and reactions are more or less controlled by you. If you want to feel like he's looking at you as if you were the "only one in the world", you can trick yourself into believing it's true.

CocktailsMalIntent said, (232 days ago)

@danny: i'm guessing that her experience is from dealing with this from a "dating men" situation, which is what she's asking about. and none of what you listed sounds like detaching from emotions.

Low Caliber said, (232 days ago)

I wish that emotions were detachable, as mine are awfully cumbersome and apparently sewn to my sleeve.

Corey Hart said, (232 days ago)

Just because someone seems "cold and emotionless" doesn't mean they are, in fact, emotionless. Some are better at internalizing their emotions than others.

Just because someone lies and cheats doesn't mean they are emotionless. It means that, for whatever reason, the person they are with isn't giving them what they want. Usually for this type of person it's drama and excitement.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in the civilian world that is completely devoid of emotion.

CocktailsMalIntent said, (232 days ago)

@danny: it sounds more like she was never that into the relationship and eventually ended it. just because they don't have feelings for a person doesn't mean they don't have them at all.

CocktailsMalIntent said, (232 days ago)

@danny: it sounds more like she was never that into the relationship and eventually ended it. just because they don't have feelings for a person doesn't mean they don't have them at all.

Cashew said, (232 days ago)

@Low Caliber. yeah... would be nice sometimes, wouldn't it?

Corey Hart said, (232 days ago)

Whining about it isn't helping your case.

Corey Hart said, (232 days ago)

Just find some cojones and confidence and you should be alright.

krissyjo said, (232 days ago)

I do agree that a lot of it has to do with my reaction, and it is fair to say that I look for some semblance of emotion from him. But when he verbally acknowledges that I'm not wanting sex, I'm wanting love, then holds my face in his hands and stares into my eyes and keeps me close to him... I can't help but feel as though I'm not just seeing what I want to see.

Part of me believes he pretends to detach himself for fear of hurting me. But it hurts worse to have it acknowledged and encouraged then taken away in a moments notice than to just give in to it.

krissyjo said, (232 days ago)

@Danny - I didn't mean to imply that men are the only ones who can detach, I've known plenty of girls who could do that. Although I don't feel we can really compare the two situations as though we're talking about the same thing.

Namrok said, (232 days ago)

I don't really think its fair to say either sex "detaches" their emotions. That would imply they had them in the first place. Rather they go through the motions as though they had the emotions and get you all headfucked out of some sort of compulsion. Because they like the attention, the challenge, it boosts their ego, whatever.

lamebrains said, (232 days ago)

Maybe they have detachable emotions to complement their King Missile detachable penis?

ABoyNamedArt said, (232 days ago)

It may not be a case of detaching the emotion, as much as choosing to follow another thought process -- listening to the head, and not the heart, you might say.

Uncanny MONCHICHI said, (232 days ago)

Oy, with the man-bashing.

Can you maybe not generalize about guys and talk about this guy in particular?

It sounds like this specific dude may have learned how to put on a convincing show. As to why, well, some people (of both sexes) are just manipulative douchebags.


That said, it is entirely possible (not knowing the guy's side of it) that he's simply not that effusive. See Osteo's comment on the 8 crayons.

El Indio said, (232 days ago)

i dare someone to start a thread on here that confronts male-bashing. a serious thread.

Uncanny MONCHICHI said, (232 days ago)

@El Indio: I thought about it, but there's just not enough going on to make it topical. I feel it's the kind of thing that only really needs to be pointed out if it's become egregious. Otherwise it just comes off as whining.

I mean, face it, just like Consu (and every other free-topic board), there's always going to be a few topics here about less-than-ideal relationships that are framed along gender lines.

ABoyNamedArt said, (232 days ago)

"A few"? Dude, that's being generous.

Alexis said, (232 days ago)

God you guys, she already said she didn't mean it. She's just confused, cut her some slack. If you want to start your thread about male bashing, just do it.

Osteocephalic said, (232 days ago)

The only male bashing I do is alone in my room. Uhn, unh, unh.

Osteocephalic said, (232 days ago)

Damn, I reign.

Namrok said, (231 days ago)

It's not like any one among us is above hating it out against the other gender when we get screwed over. Even if only a little bit.

We also all know its just a phase until you simmer down.

It's not like anybody is going on about how men are solely responsible for global warming, or that men rape the earth just like they rape women.

Which is a particular bit of nonsense I've just stumbled on.

Oh feminists.

krissyjo said, (231 days ago)

I didn't mean to come across as a male basher... and I honestly don't hate the guy at all. If I did, I don't think this topic would exist. It's actually the opposite - I love him as much as I've ever been able to love a human being (not including my son, but I think we'll agree that's a different love). I don't necessarily look at his detachment as a fault either, it's just a part of who he is. Plus the term "detach" is loosely used because I don't know how else to concisely describe in in order to make a one sentence topic.

I think I could handle my confusion better if, say, I were the one to initiate the latest contact - but it was agreed that he'd set the pace on rebuilding a friendship. Because someone wanted to talk specifically about this one guy, here is what is causing me confusion:

It was he who called Sunday to ask if I had gotten my car looked at. Upon telling him I would find a mechanic before Wednesday, he states he will do it in exchange for dinner. Because we've already been through the 'booty call' stage and both agreed that it stirred up emotions that wouldn't allow us to move on, it was said that this was only mechanic work and dinner.

After the car was finished and kitchen cleaned, he lingered. He could have left, or he could have made a move to show he was interested in sex. But he sat and chatted. Through our talking, I found myself aching for him a bit. During a lull, I said what I had been thinking, "I want you to stay over tonight."

He said sorry in the tone that told me he couldn't, but he still lingered. He said, "You don't want sex... you want love." I corrected him with "I don't want any love, I want your love." We sat there for another moment and he stood up. I assumed he was going to the door. Instead, he pulled me into a hug and told me I smelled familiar. He said it would be a bad idea for him to stay. I'll admit I didn't let his hand go, I'll admit I kissed him first, but then I apologized and stepped back and he grabbed me. I don't know if it was lust or love that took over, but there was more in those touches than desire for pure sex alone. We'd pull away then come back together, then someone would apologize and we would stand there quietly and still, just enjoying being close. He whispered "What are we doing?" and while my mind was screaming that we shouldn't have walked away, I simply answered, "I don't know."

That's when something switched. I asked what he was thinking and he said he wanted a booty call and I wanted to be close to him and that he couldn't take advantage of me like that. That it wasn't fair to me. I felt as though he was lying but didn't say anything. I lifted my face and we were forehead to forehead, just staring into each others eyes. He took a step back so he could see me clearly, my hands cupped in his face, lips inches from one another. He kissed me one last time the familiar kiss I've grown to know and then left.

krissyjo said, (231 days ago)

So am I crazy for being confused? And please be honest... I wouldn't have put this up if I didn't want honesty. And feel free to ask questions. If I can find any sense to tell my head and my heart, I want to.

krissyjo said, (231 days ago)

Second to last sentence should be His hands cupped My face... Not the other way around.

Uncanny MONCHICHI said, (231 days ago)

Sounds like he's legitimately conflicted.

Namrok said, (231 days ago)

You have to take his word on how he feels. Because

a) He probably really feels that way
b) Even if he doesn't, you won't be able to convince him of that.

The "truth" of the matter really isn't important since both courses of action dictate you just drop it.

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