Brand new, fresh out of the box computer. What do I need to install?
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Combustible Monkey said, (123 days ago)
@The Shifty: Incidentally, I'm watching the GTAIV review on Gametrailers, and they're basically giving it a big, sloppy BJ.
MUPaully said, (123 days ago)
Well, I'm assuming since you're installing iTunes that you bought a PC. That means you need some anti-virus (I recommend Kaspersky) and some anti-spyware software. Probably some media burning software.
Combustible Monkey said, (123 days ago)
@Soulcamp: Shut it. I didn't feel like spending twice the money for 1/4 of the possible games.
valkyrie said, (123 days ago)
@Monkey: WELL FINE. Beeteedubs, MizSarah is carrying a hug from me back to you.
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
@Combustible: No worries - just giving you a ribbing. Though that statement is complete BS, as all Mac hardware made in the last 2 years can run Windows.
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
@Corey: A Mac mini costs $599. Since the cheapest 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo costs $157 on NewEgg (we'll give you the benefit of the doubt and not use a mobile chip, though you won't be able to compete on machine size), that means the rest of the computer is going to have to cost you -$7. Good luck.
Though the mini is no gaming machine - I'll give you that. So let's go with a 20" iMac - $1499. 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo ($244) + Radeon 2600 Pro ($83) = FAIL.
Maybe you're talking ultra high-end. How about the Mac Pro @ $2799. Two 2.8GHz Xeon Harpertown processors ($715 each) = $1430. Doh!
Whatever you're smoking, I want some. ;^p
Corey Hart said, (123 days ago)
@soulcamp: What are you babbling about? Your comparisons are not self evident.
How does $599 - $157 = -$7?
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
You said PCs are 1/4 the cost of a Mac, not me. $157 x 4 > $599.
Truth is, a Mac will only cost you somewhere between 5-20% more than a build-it-yourself PC with the same specs, and that's not counting labor, the cost of Mac OS X and related apps, or the overall design of the machine. The notion that Macs are expensive is a total myth, spread by people who haven't yet entered the 21st century.
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
@Corey: BTW, when come down off of whatever high it is that your riding, you'll realize that $157 only included the processor. You'll still need a motherboard (with onboard video), RAM, power supply, chassis, drives, and an OS.
Corey Hart said, (123 days ago)
Combusty said 1/4th the cost. I was snarking on that same note.
I guarantee I can build a pc for at least 25% less than a mac, with similar specs. For the price of a mac, I can build something twice as good.
But that is only part of the issue. As far as I know, the only Mac that you can really upgrade is the Mac Pro. It's very cheap and easy to upgrade a pc.
Then there's software availability. There's no question that PCs have a LOT more software than MACs. You can still say this even if you exclude all the shitty software there is for PCs.
Corey Hart said, (123 days ago)
And the thing is I don't have anything against macs, really. I'm indifferent between using a mac and a pc.
That is up until the point where I know I can get more out of a pc for less money.
L said, (123 days ago)
i love my mac. but i hate this kind of bullshit. i have a mac because it does what i need it to do. in the end, it is a tool.
Corey Hart said, (123 days ago)
exactly. computers are tools. there is nothing that I would need a mac for that I can't do for cheaper, just as efficiently, on a pc.
~~~minx said, (123 days ago)
although, on second thought, i guess it wouldn't really be "installed".
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
"I guarantee I can build a pc for at least 25% less than a mac, with similar specs. For the price of a mac, I can build something twice as good."
@Corey: This statement is patently wrong, and I proved it above. Your information is simply bad. While I don't discount your theory that for what YOU'RE looking for in a computer, you can build a PC cheaper (again, ignoring labor - I've built many, many a PC in my life, and if you can pull if off in less than 2 hours, with OS installed and running, you should be working in a factory in China). And I'm no Apple fanboy - I swear at my Mac more times an hour than an Italian mobster with Tourret's. But the statement that you can build a machine that is twice as good as a Mac for less is flat out bullshit. Bullshit, I say. There is no fact to that statement, whatsoever. Utter bullshit. You're wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, with a steaming pile of bullshit on top. If you can prove that statement, I'll video myself dropping my Bondi Blue iMac from a tall building and post it on YouTube. But you can't, because you can't.
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
(I am supposed to be doing my taxes, but I think it's blatantly obvious to everyone that I procrastinating.)
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
@Corey: Also, find me a non-Apple laptop with a backlit keyboard (so I can work in bed in the dark) and dual-link DVI (so I can drive my 30" display when I'm at my desk). AFAIK, it doesn't exist, at any price.
soulcamp said, (123 days ago)
@Combustible: Sorry to dick up your thread with my inane boredom. I will move it along now...
Combustible Monkey said, (123 days ago)
Okay, having reviewed your suggestions:
Porn? Check.
Linux? Do I LOOK like a l33t hax0rz to you?
Mac vs PC? Please stop.
Centropomus said, (122 days ago)
Linux no longer requires being a l33t hax0r. It lets you be one if you want though.
halon said, (122 days ago)
I'm a fan of Screenhunter - a free screenshot program that I can run in the background and grab frames from full screen games I'm playing, or if I want to send a quickie preview of something I'm photoshopping.
As far as anti-spyware and antiviral protection, I use AVG - also free, good protection.
Aside from Firefox, iTunes and Flash, that is.